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Lost: Season 2
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Miss Shelf
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I'm a little worried that the novelty has worn off. Yeah, now we know (more or less) what's in the hatch, but they keep
I gotta wonder if I'm going to get bored with it before this season is over-and it's just begun.
showing us that people the survivors met before they got on the plane are on the island.
lenny nero
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Some stuff to ponder:
Interesting Episode Trivia taken from tvtome:
Time of death for the man in the hospital is 8:15. 8 and 15 are in the mysterious set of numbers.
As Jack walks into the geodesic-dome bunker, with the 80s rock music blaring in the background, Kate yells out "Jack!". He can't hear her but the closed-captioning text shows that Kate yells out 3 times.
The driver of the car Sarah hit is identified as "Adam Rutherford, age 57." Shannon's last name is Rutherford. Perhaps her father and Boone's stepfather?
When the unknown long-haired man (who we find out to be Desmond) sits in front of his computer at the beginning of the episode, he types "The Numbers" before hitting the execute button.
Desmond’s injection drug vials have no actual drug name on the labels; they are only identified by the numbers: CR 4-81516-23 42. Recognize them?
Time of death for the man in the hospital is 8:15. 8 and 15 are in the mysterious set of numbers.
As Jack walks into the geodesic-dome bunker, with the 80s rock music blaring in the background, Kate yells out "Jack!". He can't hear her but the closed-captioning text shows that Kate yells out 3 times.
The driver of the car Sarah hit is identified as "Adam Rutherford, age 57." Shannon's last name is Rutherford. Perhaps her father and Boone's stepfather?
When the unknown long-haired man (who we find out to be Desmond) sits in front of his computer at the beginning of the episode, he types "The Numbers" before hitting the execute button.
Desmond’s injection drug vials have no actual drug name on the labels; they are only identified by the numbers: CR 4-81516-23 42. Recognize them?
Jack falls down in the stadium at row 23.
Both Locke and Sarah (Jack's future wife) are miraculously cured of paralysis from the waist down.
Desmond's underground bachelor pad's equipment is almost all from the late 70s/early 80s, except for his washer/dryer set...they're contemporary models.
The mural on the wall in the bunker prominently features the number 108 -- the sum total of the mysterious numbers. The individual numbers also feature in the painting, as well as a picture of an eye, the letter "M", and the word "sick" -- I M Sick.
If Adam Rutherford is Shannon's father (and it is pretty much assumed that it is), this means that the wreck takes place at most 12 years previous. Shannon's father married Boone's mother when she was 8, and she is 20 in present day. This means that the encounter with Desmond that Jack has in the stadium takes place *after* Rousseau's crew land on the island (17 years previous, at least). How did he get there?
Walt's dog Vincent leads Shannon and Sayid to him -- Walt's dialogue is presented backwards in the episode...reversed, his words are "Push the button? No button bad."
There is some magnetic field being created behind the walls of the bunker -- Jack's key gets attracted to the wall (cement-laden buckets in front of it) just before the power cuts on and Mama Cass starts singing. The magnetic field explains why the compasses weren't working as they should, and perhaps explains why the plane went off course to begin with.
Desmond means "man of the world." Desmond claims that he is running the stadium in training for a "race around the world."
Desmond is not seen at all in the long shots establishing Jack as running alone in the stadium -- where did he come from?
Both Locke and Sarah (Jack's future wife) are miraculously cured of paralysis from the waist down.
Desmond's underground bachelor pad's equipment is almost all from the late 70s/early 80s, except for his washer/dryer set...they're contemporary models.
The mural on the wall in the bunker prominently features the number 108 -- the sum total of the mysterious numbers. The individual numbers also feature in the painting, as well as a picture of an eye, the letter "M", and the word "sick" -- I M Sick.
If Adam Rutherford is Shannon's father (and it is pretty much assumed that it is), this means that the wreck takes place at most 12 years previous. Shannon's father married Boone's mother when she was 8, and she is 20 in present day. This means that the encounter with Desmond that Jack has in the stadium takes place *after* Rousseau's crew land on the island (17 years previous, at least). How did he get there?
Walt's dog Vincent leads Shannon and Sayid to him -- Walt's dialogue is presented backwards in the episode...reversed, his words are "Push the button? No button bad."
There is some magnetic field being created behind the walls of the bunker -- Jack's key gets attracted to the wall (cement-laden buckets in front of it) just before the power cuts on and Mama Cass starts singing. The magnetic field explains why the compasses weren't working as they should, and perhaps explains why the plane went off course to begin with.
Desmond means "man of the world." Desmond claims that he is running the stadium in training for a "race around the world."
Desmond is not seen at all in the long shots establishing Jack as running alone in the stadium -- where did he come from?
I must have missed that episode as I missed several of them last season. This season I am going to try to catch them all. I need the DVD box set to catch up with what's going on, lol. The only numbers I remember being showed were the lottery numbers and how they held some sort of curse with those that carried them. I wonder what they mean... 
Stewart
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Allison said:
Yes, it's those numbers. They appear throughout. Two of the numbes, 8 and 15 form the number of the filght 815, the different airport gates apply to the numbers. There are six American footballers in the airport during one of the flashbacks in the Exodus three parter and the numbers on their back are the lottery numbers. There's many more. They may just be an injoke between the crew, however, as opposed to having any real relevance.
MonkeyCatcher
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That was very interesting, Lenny, thanks!
Season Two of Lost does not screen here until May 2006 I'm downloading each episode as they appear online, though.. I need my Lost fix!
Season Two of Lost does not screen here until May 2006
I'm downloading each episode as they appear online, though.. I need my Lost fix!Wow, I can't believe how observant Lenny is. I didn't catch half the stuff he noticed. My main curiosity is what the numbers represent. I am afraid of a letdown in the storyline, though, once the meaning becomes more apparent. My favorite story in the group was Hurley's. I loved that scene during the flashback of his story where he walks into the psyche ward, sees the guy changing a lightbulb on a rickety ladder, and says, "Dude, you really don't want to do that right now." The mystery of Desmond is the most prominent mystery as of now. I thought maybe all the characters would recognize him, that he would have figured in all their lives in one way or another, but that was not the case, since Locke and Kate didn't know who he was.
An observation from last season I would be curious to get some viewpoints on--what did you guys think of the fact that Locke and Hurley almost missed the plane? Was there another character who almost missed the plane, too...? It seemed there were constant obstacles thrown at them. Hurley's hotel room lost its electrical power, making him oversleep, his car broke down (I think, I can't remember exactly what happened but I know it was something like a tire blow-out), etc. Locke only got on the plane, after almost missing it too, by doing something he found humiliating, which was to let the airline personnel carry him on board in front of the other passengers. Did something on the island not want them there? If so, why?
I think my favorite part about this show is that the characters are not static. I waver back and forth between thinking Locke is the only sane guy on the island, and thinking he's got a screw loose and is about to blow. Jack is annoying self-righteous one minute, selflessly herioic the next. Kate seems sweet and (somewhat) innocent despite her past, yet there are foreshadowings (like the raft incident with Jin's wife) that she may be as devious and calculating as the marshall accused her of being.
An observation from last season I would be curious to get some viewpoints on--what did you guys think of the fact that Locke and Hurley almost missed the plane? Was there another character who almost missed the plane, too...? It seemed there were constant obstacles thrown at them. Hurley's hotel room lost its electrical power, making him oversleep, his car broke down (I think, I can't remember exactly what happened but I know it was something like a tire blow-out), etc. Locke only got on the plane, after almost missing it too, by doing something he found humiliating, which was to let the airline personnel carry him on board in front of the other passengers. Did something on the island not want them there? If so, why?
I think my favorite part about this show is that the characters are not static. I waver back and forth between thinking Locke is the only sane guy on the island, and thinking he's got a screw loose and is about to blow. Jack is annoying self-righteous one minute, selflessly herioic the next. Kate seems sweet and (somewhat) innocent despite her past, yet there are foreshadowings (like the raft incident with Jin's wife) that she may be as devious and calculating as the marshall accused her of being.
MonkeyCatcher
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I believe he got the list from tvtomegeist said:
Hurley was "cursed" after he won the lotto, so that would account for all that bad luck that made him almost miss the plane.
I agree totally with your points about the characters. It keeps the show fresh and interesting, IMHO.
Just a question - did people enjoy the second episode of the season? I was looking on tvtome, and it looks like a lot of people were dissapointed in it and thought it to be a "waste of their time" because "nothing happened". I personally believed it to be one the best episodes - I really liked the idea of
going back in time to see what had happened to Locke and Kate, and especially the way that the stories overlapped so that you can go back to the first episode and notice things that you didn't before.
MonkeyCatcher said:I believe he got the list from tvtome
Hurley was "cursed" after he won the lotto, so that would account for all that bad luck that made him almost miss the plane.
I agree totally with your points about the characters. It keeps the show fresh and interesting, IMHO.
Just a question - did people enjoy the second episode of the season? I was looking on tvtome, and it looks like a lot of people were dissapointed in it and thought it to be a "waste of their time" because "nothing happened". I personally believed it to be one the best episodes - I really liked the idea of.going back in time to see what had happened to Locke and Kate, and especially the way that the stories overlapped so that you can go back to the first episode and notice things that you didn't before.
Ah... that Lenny's a tricky one. I get what you're saying about Hurley, but what about Locke? I still think there's more to it, after all, he got there safely in the first place. Come to think of it, they both had to humiliate themselves to get on the plane, because didn't Hurley have to go through some hassle with the airline ticket person about purchasing two seats because of his size? Hmmm....
I'm surprised there was criticism of the episode because of the fact that they retold most of the first episode's storyline from the other characters' viewpoints. I think it's writing like this that makes the show so interesting and original. Ten witnesses will have 10 different stories. I think it gives insight into the characters to see how they view the same events.
lenny nero
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From aint-it-cool-news.com
spoilers(probably not if you watch the show):
spoilers(probably not if you watch the show):
MonkeyCatcher
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Just as an interesting fact, I was searching on moviemistakes.com yesterday and found a rather interesting "mistake" (possibly intentional?) in the second episode of Lost (season 2):
While they were floating on different rafts, Sawyer mentioned to Micheal that the French woman had told them that the others were coming for the kid, and that the 'kid' they were referring to was obviously Walt. How did Sawyer know what the French woman said? The raft was long gone before the French woman came with her news.
lenny nero
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I think those people who captured Sawyer, Jin, and the other guy, are people from the back of the plane. Every episode of this show just creates more questions.
MonkeyCatcher
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I thought that these people are 'The Others', and The Others stole the French woman's baby 17 years previously, didn't they? They can't be the people from the back of the planelenny nero said:I think those people who captured Sawyer, Jin, and the other guy, are people from the back of the plane. Every episode of this show just creates more questions.
lenny nero
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The huge guy, who threw them in the hole, is an African actor I remember from that HBO show Oz. This makes me think that he is one of the Nigerians who were flying the plane full of heroin.
lenny nero
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He doesn't. It's from a dream Hurley had.
Miss Shelf
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Stewart said:
How can you get the latest episodes? I thought you Brits were a year behind us.