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I'm not signing onto this (bad) 'deal'. I have as much right to live in this world (and the land where I was born) as someone who believes in law does.

I've tried, but as you're unable to accept comprehention of my basic premises, the answers aren't making sense to you. This thread's title is 'Prohibitive Law vs Protective Justice. Why don't we try it from the opposite side and have you trying to sell me on the concept of law? Answer these...

I know that and I'm fully in favor of ORDER. What I'm saying is that LAW is a piss poor way of ordering. I'm not special or 'above the law'. Instead, I concider law to be a dillusionary (non)-entity that I can't be either above, below or beside. I've been trying to show how a non-law system...

So you're willing keep a system that has corruption built into is and hold it as sancrosanct. I'm not. Horse manure! I was born with a birthright of freedom. None have the right to make me a blind slave to an obsolete concept.

Obviously I'm batting zero for two on gaining comprehention and I've wasted more of my time. So you're perfectly willing to blame noney for everything and do nothing to try and better the world?

If you still can't understand the concept then please don't let me keep you from your Flat Earth Society meeting. I'm still hoping that some might comprehend it and that some valuable discussion can ensue.

Are you the elected speaker for the lemmings?

What right do they have now? None! They only have a self-granted power to do so and that is backed up with armed might.

Exactly! but we don't need to prostrate ourselves in slavery to the big banana to install a consequence. Portective justice is able to order harsh measures like jail time, but it uses a protection rationale instead of a punishment one--and it doesn't need bananas to do it.

Before we examine society’s response, let’s look at the incident as it is happening. The cuckolded wife has caught the infidelity in progress and grabbed a handgun. ‘BANG’ the cheating spouse takes one in the heart. Now, she swings the muzzle to the naked lady ensconced in her marital bed...

Technically, it IS an entity. or rather a figmernt of society's imagination, and that's what causes the problem with it. Since the word 'law' seems to blinker you, let's exchange it with another word. "Comitting the act of murder is a crime against the banana." "Breaking the banana will...

Speaking of hats, has anyone ever done a study into what makes a beanie's propeller turn? Since it's pointed skywards, the horizontal winds and the airflow from walking would exert an equal force on both blades. The most that should happen is for the prop to adopt a position of the least wind...

Law only protects its own sanctity. Making a threat is breaking the law against uttering threats--it is not protecting a person..

I could talk about this but the description would be better where there is at least one living victim. How about if you kill one but only wound the next? Drafting up a point by point descrition of the process will likely take me a couple of days.

I have no problem with 'common law'. That system has evolved case by case and it DOES deal with people (or companies) as the plaintant and the defendant. Criminal law is not the same. There, the law interjects itself where it doesn't really belong. {again, I'll defer answering questions...

I can and will answer any questions. But before I do, I want to ensure that all understand exactly how protective justice differs from prohibitive law and what the crux problem in the theory of law. Law creates an illusionary entity between the perpetrator and the victim. The police and...

See thread 'Prohibitive Law vs Protective Justice'.

You're right. I stand corrected. Frankly, I'm not sure if I believe the Columbus thing either. However, from the difficulites I've had in drumming in a very simple concept, I have to think that something other than intelect is blocking comprehension

This is exactly why I was talking about slavery concepts in the other thread. If someone beats up your sister, you pound the crap out of him BECAUSE he hit your sister. The courts deal with it differently. You and most people presume the court is dealing with your sister's hurt but it...

Have you ever seen the movie 'Who the Bleep do we think we are'? In one section they tell of how, when Columbus first approached America, that none could see the ships approaching, because they were so alien to the native's knowledge. This seems to be the case in this topic. If I can tell you...