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    Prohibitive Law vs Protective Justice

    I tried unsucsessfully to explain and discuss this in a thread that became overly long and convoluted. I'll attempt to streamline the root concept. Prohibitive law focuses on the rule itself as opposed to dealing directly with the wrongful action. (Eg the court is concerned only with a...
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    Author of Shiva's Messenger

    Yes, and I got quite frustrated from unsucessfully trying. People poked any holes in their own missed impressions and that further stoked my frustration. I was trying to respond. Perhaps my answers got lost in all your further questions I tried that with my 'if you had a justice system thread'...
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    Author of Shiva's Messenger

    First you told me you didn't even read the thread. Then you felt you understood the concepts so fully that you could envison fatal flaws. You aren't defending the admittedly flawed current system--but yet you are because you've discounted an alternative without reading into it, asking...
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    Author of Shiva's Messenger

    Sorry, I couldn't find anything in a reply post worth quoting. Often at boards, I find a few open-minded people. Here unfortunately, all I've seen are those who have their opinions etched in stone--before even understanding the other side. Banal quips just show that you haven't understood...
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    Author of Shiva's Messenger

    I doubt if you could understand any concepts deeper than a wading pool.
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    If you could design a justice system

    If you measure your self worth in terms of net wealth, then you'll never amount to anything.
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    Author of Shiva's Messenger

    There's too much that's been misunderstood in this thread. I'll have to go back to my drawing board to figure out a better way to explain.
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    Author of Shiva's Messenger

    I'm saying that police/court operates under full autonomy FROM the government. Currently, whichever party government takes power can change the laws as they choose. Nazi Germany fit the definition of your 'modern western democracy'. Look how that turned out. The 'party' system of governance...
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    Author of Shiva's Messenger

    "Society" was intended to mean the court. a) You showed a willingness to kill and a taste for human flesh. Isn't that a threat to other living 'long-pigs'? b) It's as subjective as it is now, but we're not hamstrung by having to let Karla Holmolka out only because of the prosecution 'deal'...
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    Author of Shiva's Messenger

    I disagree. Law is holding civilization from being an enlightened society. Again, I disagree. I see deeper into human psychology than common (erronious) beliefs. I can show by logical assumption how the rule-of-law is the root cause of many societal ills. Changing to a protective...
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    Author of Shiva's Messenger

    I disagree. Most of us are very good but the slave system is damaging all of us. No, we wouldn't always follow our consciences but the stupidly designed legal system factors the conscious OUT. How can you know how much it would factor IN? Why did just a word usage lead to a death? Were you...
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    Author of Shiva's Messenger

    The theory is that you are NEVER punishing for any action. Society is only using the past action as indication of the threat posed. In this canabalism case, it was concentual--but that predilection and his advertising for more victims makes him into a threat--IF the court determines it so...
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    If you could design a justice system

    Another thread supposed that you had your own nation, so here is a chance to start from the ground up on getting the job done right. 1. Who would impose an order standard and how would it be made? 2. How would you validate having people adhere to the standard? 3. How would your...
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    Author of Shiva's Messenger

    I don’t know why people can’t understand this concept: it’s not that difficult. If it sounds like only semantics and circular reasoning, then you haven’t grasped what I’m talking about. My understanding of the human psyche is also quite deep. I’ll try yet again. Law is a convoluted way of...
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    If you had your own country...

    Ding! 1) The whole world 2) True democracy. (Political parties outlawed). 3) the whole big ball and surrounding satelites. 4) None. 5) Tax on business or consumption taxes only.
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    Author of Shiva's Messenger

    It ends where it negatively affects someone else. I don't know how many more different ways I can explain this material: it starts with acknowledging the base premise that slavery is the worst wrong. *Law itself is a crime against humanity. *Law is based on a feudal serf concept of the...
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    Author of Shiva's Messenger

    Would you still after the novelty wore off? Or, is a 70 mph limited UK motorway to slow for some conditions? There is no fine. How does a dollar amount suitably address the issue of dangerous driving? A ticket only intitutes a court process. The verdict should equate to the problem and...
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    Author of Shiva's Messenger

    Your misconception of what I last responded again stems from the fact that you haven't grasped my root concept. This is my fault because I've expanded into my rationales and extensions too soon. If I could show you where the ignition switch is, you could envision the smoother running...
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    Author of Shiva's Messenger

    When I asked why you exceed the speed limit, you gave me five reasons. But you didn't tell me WHY you feel it's your right to break the speed limit. Did you consider yourself above the law at that point? Did you think the limit was set too low for the conditions and were you protesting...
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    Author of Shiva's Messenger

    You are vastly discounting the power of your subconscious mind over your waking actions. Your mouth is saying you're not a slave--but your inside self knows very well that you are treated as a serf and I'm sure this often manifests in your words and deeds. Can you REALLY determine why you toss...
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