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ricky said:oh, a woman so invented it....think about it.....!
if i were to be pessimistic about it, i would say men invented it- so they could own and control women. think about history across all the continents
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ricky said:oh, a woman so invented it....think about it.....!
Jenem said:if i were to be pessimistic about it, i would say men invented it- so they could own and control women. think about history across all the continents
honeydevil said:true, but woman were always easier to control then men... why would they make such a sacrifice?
ricky said:not all women are easy to control....
honeydevil said:true, but woman were always easier to control then men... why would they make such a sacrifice?
ricky said:jenem, i can totally see and agree with all that you say. i really do. and i respect and admire those that truly believe in the sanctity of marriage. i guess, i have been somewhat soured, and i do think that is an unfortunate way to be.
honeydevil said:i know, and it is not what i said... and i think woman in the whole just became strong in the last 100 maybe 200 years...
Jenem said:i'm not sure what sacrifice you mean. men could marry, work and have mistresses on the side if they pleased. women stayed at home and had children. there were a lot of societal games that were played, and women were either the booty or the castoffs.
Jenem said:yeah, but furthest in the last 50 or so (like everything, i guess). but we still have a long way to go.
Agree hereJenem said:if i were to be pessimistic about it, i would say men invented it- so they could own and control women. think about history across all the continents
Totally dissagree here. there is sexism in our world and shows up clearly in industry. However wrt marraige, the man is definately the underdog, well in Australia and the UK.Jenem said:yeah, but furthest in the last 50 or so (like everything, i guess). but we still have a long way to go.
Carlos said:Agree here
Totally dissagree here. there is sexism in our world and shows up clearly in industry. However wrt marraige, the man is definately the underdog, well in Australia and the UK.
eg A friend of my wife was married to a lady who happens to be a drug addict, she embezelled loads of money and is now serving time. They have a daughter together and he can not get custody of his daughter, even though he is in a stable relationship, working full time and has no criminal record.
In the divorce or family courts they ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS side with the woman.
Jenem said:what i actually meant when i said we have a long way to go with regard to women's equality is more of the workplace, wages, media, politics etc. as for marriage, the reason women are given custody first over men is because they are known as nurturers. this is a result of the whole idea that women stay at home and raise the kids while the men go out to work and play. i dream of a day when we are totally equal.
I guess there is a long to go when people still hold the belief that it's women who are nurturers and men hunters. Either person can do the job, if they wished to.Jenem said:what i actually meant when i said we have a long way to go with regard to women's equality is more of the workplace, wages, media, politics etc. as for marriage, the reason women are given custody first over men is because they are known as nurturers. this is a result of the whole idea that women stay at home and raise the kids while the men go out to work and play. i dream of a day when we are totally equal.