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I've read Lord of the Flies, and Animal Farm, but I'm disappointed because I thought you understood my basic concept.
Suppose that you hold a piece of plastic wrap in front of your face, and call it the law. Then, I poke my finger into your eye. You scream in pain, but I can argue that I...
I would like to discuss the nuts and bolts of a better system, but I can't do it with you while you're focused only on trying to protect 'law'.
Reading back, I think the key to your stance and verbose posts can be found in this clip "I (and all other law students..." Are you in fact a law...
Here is an addendum to the speeding scenario. What if the police investigation and/or the defense show the reason for speeding there is a set of lights on a very long timer at the block’s end. People speed to make the green or the yellow. The judge might order the speeder to work the...
Punishment is what we need to STOP doing. We can't punish because we have no devine authority to set restrictions on actions. Instead, justice should protecting the many members of society by confining the few and trying to rehabilitate them.
So for your question, the system creates itself...
This is precisely why I'd like to discuss this. To find a solid workable alternative. Society REALLY needs to develop a replacement because law IS failing. People are chafing at the dark-ages law, but government and police are only tightening the screws on the pressure-cooker.
Ahhhh. It feels great having someone say that! Can you think of any ways that I could've expressed it? I was trying, but people seemed to think I was in favor of seeing rapists and killers run wild.
I'm certain most people have good morals but law is actually causing much wrongdoing. I'm an...
Why must there be a fictional entity to do that? Why can't a judge acting as a neutral third party make a decision based on what actually happened, and not on some bizarre notion of supposed damage done to this precious law non-entity?
In an altercation between two people, the law presumes...
I wouldn't mind if someone disagreed on the basis of their having understood first, but the questions and comments show me that comprehention has been missed. I don't know how to breach that wall of misunderstanding--I've tried every way I can think of.
You're disagreeing without first...
Protective justice takes the realistic view that a wrong/crime/harm/threat occurred between two people (or sides)and the justice system works as a nuetral party to determine the actions that will best serve the protection of all people, including the one(s) directly hurt, the one(s) who did the...
A picture is worth a thousand words, so try to envision how the law works.
Have your mind see two people. One is a prospective victim and the other intends a harm. A knife flashes and one drops to the floor.
Law does NOT see the same thing as you just did. Law supposedly interjected itself...
<<I didn't ignor you. Real life called me away before I finished composing a reply to your post.>>
I'm not sure why so many people have difficulty understanding my point. It's not that complicated, but it does require thinking outside of the box. Yes, I think law should be utterly...
I live in Canada (at least part of each year) as you do. I described what protective justice is in a thread called 'prohibitive law versus protective justice' but the participants seemed to find my description of it unclear.
Protective Justice isn't 'lawlessness'. It's a system where a process...
Why can't you see that you are enslaved to an erronious perception of what law is? You say that there must be law--yet you and everyone else doesn't trust those in power--who MAKE and APPLY the laws. It isn't the corrupt people in power who are at fault. The real culprit is the false and...
To exist as part of society we all must adhere to our moral consciences. By Codes I presume you mean laws, but those we could and should do without because the 'rule-of-law' is causing much of the civil unrest.
Either way, laws are a major and unecessary instigator of societal ills. (One law...
Retrospectively, I feel that my previous threads on this subject were destined to fail also, because I was placing the ‘cart before the horse’. People can’t objectively consider an alternate form of justice, while they still wrongly believe the current law is working. I’ve been accused of...
America has already sent 'nutters' to kill children and women--Bush puts uniforms on them and off they go.
[The above is just political stab and not part of my thoughts on justice.]
I've said this line so often that now my mind hears it in Ethyl Merman's voice from 'Annie Get your...
Again we seem to have arrived at a point where my explanations have failed to find full comprehention. You said you understand, but you haven't fully grasped the point of protective justice.
I'ts frustrating for me, but I'm sure that it's exasperating for you too. Alas, I also think I know...
I'm sorry to hear this, and as you're the one person on this forum I thought stood the best chance of getting it, I'll doubtlessly drop it now.
In your (extremely unlikely) scenario, the man has shown that he is a treat, regardless of where the event took place and the American Protective...