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Revelator

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These performances in live are the versions that I like a lot more, Can you guess why ?? :cool:
Lemme take a wild guess... violins? :D
Wow, Fodera bass :). I drooled over it for a long time, real expensive, tho, outta my reach :).
Interestin language, never heard of Duala, again a new thing I learned :).

Check out her voice... and that guitar solo...
 

Revelator

Member
Extemporization like a great poet !! :) You were their bridge....Although If I had been a bridge would be....Drawbridge and someday I would have taken revenge on both and I'd have played beyond the tonic and fifth !! :devillook

hahaha, drawbridge, I like that... yeah, was real tempted some days :D
 

Cosimah2o

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Lemme take a wild guess... violins? :D
:eek: Wow, you're very keen-sighted !! There wasn't almost clues !! :rofl --- There was also an implicit message about the bassist who leads the way in this band . In fact in these performances, the guitarist has been pushed into the background :shifty
hahaha, drawbridge, I like that... yeah, was real tempted some days :D
An advice as experienced drawbridge :cool: ..... As pretext, you had to remember to Leonard Cohen when he sang « Now I've heard there was a secret chord ( ... ) It goes like this :
The fourth, the fifth.....The minor fall, the major lift » That is, transcribed = IV - V - vi - V = Hallelujah, I'm playing my own poetry without ballast !! :D
 
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Cosimah2o

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^ I still have a pending surprise regard to the origin of Basque language :cool: And now I know that you have a musical vein which allows me broach some similar concepts as much of Linguistics as musical theory :) --- My surprise » One of the 3 theories has been dismissed totally, but I won't tell you which one is, because you must discover it for yourself ... As you know, I guided me by the Musicality (( Prosody )) closest to Basque language and also by the intrinsic poetry, so in each example I'll add its phonetic pair (( certain homophony )) as clue :D --- Well, I've complicated it on purpose !! :cool: :devillook

* Berber / Basque theory = H. Schuchardt, René Lafon

(( ► )) HINDI ZAHRA - Oursoul ~ (( ► )) LIHER - Hauts



¦ The Kartvelian family of Caucasian languages ¦

^ Txalaparta versus Duduk

(( ► )) Oreka Tx

The Txalaparta is a Basque percussion instrument :cool: A board placed horizontally is played by two people, standing opposite each other ( The material used is wood) . Each of the people playing the instrument, produce a different rhythm and take it in turns to play --- One of the txalapartaris plays the txakun using two hits and repeating this until the end of what is being played and the other rhythm, using two or one hits or not playing, is repeated by the other player in the spaces of time that the first player leaves him to play, the so-called herrena . The two rhythms thus interact between each other and create different combinations as they are played
I watched a documentary about Txalapartaris few years ago, isn't so easy to play the Txalaparta as it seems . The Txakun is the balance in the game of hitting ( he keeps the tempo), while the Herrena tries to move its centre, that is, he has to dismantle the order ( balance) and create tensions


* Georgian / Basque theory = Nikolai Marr, A. Trombetti
(( ► )) The Shin - Cilveloy ~ (( ► )) Kodigo Norte - Hitzak


(( ► )) The Shin - Gelino ~ (( ► )) Mikel
Urdangarin -
Itsasoan Euria

* Armenian/Basque theory = Vahan Sarkisian, Edward Spencer Dodgson

(( ► )) Macha Gharibian - Sari Siroun Yar ~

(( ► )) Anari - Denbora

 
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Revelator

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I watched a documentary about Txalapartaris few years ago, isn't so easy to play the Txalaparta as it seems . The Txakun is the balance in the game of hitting ( he keeps the tempo), while the Herrena tries to move its centre, that is, he has to dismantle the order ( balance) and create tensions

Wow, this instrument Txalapa... I can't even spell it correctly till the end :), it blew my mind. Never heard of it before, but it seems real art to me, to work so closely with another human to be able to play the same instrument, it's beyond great :).

Loved the rest of the music ya posted too, especially the Liher (Hauts) and Anari (Denbora).

Don't remember if I posted these already, anyway...

Noah Gundersen - David

Eliza Mary Doyle - Nothin' To Lose
 

Cosimah2o

Active Member
Wow, this instrument Txalapa... I can't even spell it correctly till the end :)
:rofl Just say Tx , actually, is its abbreviation :rofl
it blew my mind. Never heard of it before, but it seems real art to me, to work so closely with another human to be able to play the same instrument, it's beyond great :)
Wait, because there is also a « short-lived » Txalaparta with notes below freezing



The distinctive feature of this Tx - aside ice - is....Each Txalapartari ( Tx player) have to tune, one by one, each ice block....Take a glance at the sequence 0.32 sec, Harkaitz ( name of a member) is hitting the ice block with one makila ( like a drumstick but in this case in Ice and made by them ) while he holds a chromatic tuner ---- Never before I had considered to bring a tuner in a vertical landscape of « melting ice » :rolleyes: --- I know the sound of ice hitted by an ice axe....I think, some February someone « pensive » should find out another scale :cool:
Loved the rest of the music ya posted too, especially the Liher (Hauts) and Anari (Denbora).
It seems the Txalaparta dazzled you too much, because you forgot to dismiss some theory :D
 
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Revelator

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:rofl Just say Tx , actually, is its abbreviation :rofl
It seems the Txalaparta dazzled you too much, because you forgot to dismiss some theory
:D

hahahaha, you're right, it did :D
and the frozen version.... again... mind blown :)

nah, have no idea which theory is wrong, to me it seems that Basque is pretty unique, but has similarities with each of those... perhaps ya should gimme more clues :D (my not so subtle way of askin for more music :D)

Empire in My Mind | The Wallflowers
 

Cosimah2o

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perhaps ya should gimme more clues :D (my not so subtle way of askin for more music :D)
Ok, a decisive clue !! :cool:

(( ► ))

:rofl
nah, have no idea which theory is wrong, to me it seems that Basque is pretty unique, but has similarities with each of those...
That you said, it's like saying....The American English or Canadian English or Aussie English have similiraties with the British English !! :shifty ---- But however, I can differentiate each of those, for example, when « I give ear » to diction :)
^ A new clue » You must be all ears, because I've « trimmed » snippets of some previous songs, so you have to take an « audible » glance :D --- The crux ( nitty-gritty ) is there and also the wrong clue !! :cool:
Listen & compare the next snippets :
* Hindi Zahra » Naniyi gawr ira diachki argazn'm ( 1.16 )

/ Nanyi gawr iradiyachki / ( 1.10 )
* Liher » Pigmalion nabari zuen Caronterekin ( 2.33 )
/ Hauts bihurtzen doaz azalak gauez gau/ ( 0.33)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
* Cilveloy » I didn't find the recited words in the Intro...The key could be the intro + percussion
or maybe not :devillook

* Hitzak » Guztiok daukagu zerbait barruan gordeta
munduan zeure izateko formaren gartzela
agudo eskuen artean bilatu bestela
betirako galduta egongo da zure izena
musikaren bidez bihotza berpiztuko da
mendi eta basoen irrintziaren deia.....

 
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Revelator

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Ok, a decisive clue !! :cool:

(( ► ))

:rofl

That you said, it's like saying....The American English or Canadian English or Aussie English have similiraties with the British English !! :shifty ---- But however, I can differentiate each of those, for example, when « I give ear » to diction :)
^ A new clue » You must be all ears, because I've « trimmed » snippets of some previous songs, so you have to take an « audible » glance :D --- The crux ( nitty-gritty ) is there and also the wrong clue !! :cool:

Well, damn... I tried but I guess am too stupid to get it :). I do realize that I like that Tx song :D. Don't suppose ya can come to me with some engine trouble instead :D?

What do I need to do to get ya to explain me the answer, 'cause now, after tryin to get it for two days, I wanna know :)?
 

Revelator

Member
now, those are not great songs or anythin', but they are all Navajo, from my parts of the state (grew up in northern AZ, near to Navajo reservation), so I guess back when I was still in a band, we were kinda part of the same music scene, ya could say...

I guess ya can see some Navajo bands and some images of my state too...

of all the songs, this one is to my taste

the other two not so much, but are still interestin for other reasons I guess :)


 

Cosimah2o

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What do I need to do to get ya to explain me the answer, 'cause now, after tryin to get it for two days, I wanna know :)?
Well, I will answer you when you take a stroll in Jerome, a mining town :cool: it roosts on the slopes of Cleopatra Hill - near the Black hills - in Yavapai county . This song talks about this quaint town !!
Pay attention to the lyrics :)

(( ► )) Barenaked ladies - Jerome


Dont worry, I will give you some waypoints without unexpected frights, that is, your steps will go in the opposite direction to the Jerome Grand Hotel
«« Click on this link :confused:


»»» Btw, Have you heard about the united Verde mine ?? Do you know about the mining history of this area ?? This place is steeped in a rich history of copper, zinc, gold and silver ore...Well, it turns out that one of the firsts European explorers who visited , what is now Jerome, was a Basque explorer :D, Juan de Oñate in 1598 searching silver . In fact on October, 1604 he was already exploring into other adjacent areas, of what will become later on Arizona and the lower Colorado River area
~~~~~~~~~
* I was taking a glance at some articles about Basque ancestry in Southern Arizona & Northern Sonora, the most striking thing was to find this question : Who named Arizona ?? Might have been the Basques !! :cool:
Perhaps one of the biggest contributions the Basques made to the state of Arizona was its name, though significant controversy still surrounds the matter. In a 1979 article in the academic journal Names, Douglass makes the argument that the state’s name derives from the Basque word for Aritz Ona = the good oak tree
The State of Arizona takes its name from a ranch started by Bernardo de Urrea sometime between 1734 and 1736. The general area around his ranch was also known as Arizona. He and a majority of the first explorers, settlers, and miners in the area were Basque and it is they who probably gave the Basque name Arizona ( the good oak ) to the region
:eek: Wow, then you are half Basque !! :cool: Ongi etorri :rofl This present for you :buttrock

(( ► )) KURAIA - Bidaiatzen




 
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Revelator

Member
Well, I will answer you when you take a stroll in Jerome, a mining town :cool: it roosts on the slopes of Cleopatra Hill - near the Black hills - in Yavapai county . This song talks about this quaint town !!
Pay attention to the lyrics :)

(( ► )) Barenaked ladies - Jerome


Dont worry, I will give you some waypoints without unexpected frights, that is, your steps will go in the opposite direction to the Jerome Grand Hotel
«« Click on this link :confused:


»»» Btw, Have you heard about the united Verde mine ?? Do you know about the mining history of this area ?? This place is steeped in a rich history of copper, zinc, gold and silver ore...Well, it turns out that one of the firsts European explorers who visited , what is now Jerome, was a Basque explorer :D, Juan de Oñate in 1598 searching silver . In fact on October, 1604 he was already exploring into other adjacent areas, of what will become later on Arizona and the lower Colorado River area
~~~~~~~~~
* I was taking a glance at some articles about Basque ancestry in Southern Arizona & Northern Sonora, the most striking thing was to find this question : Who named Arizona ?? Might have been the Basques !! :cool:

:eek: Wow, then you are half Basque !! :cool: Ongi etorri :rofl This present for you :buttrock
(( ► )) KURAIA - Bidaiatzen




had no idea about all that Basque involvement in my own history... can't believe I didn't know that :)

thank ya, it was an eye opener :). for real :). Knew there was a reason I always thought oak is the best tree :). mind blown...

love the new songs too, added to my playlist :)

I might have some Basque in my ancestry for real... that's a novel idea, but I quite like it now :)
 
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