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e-books vs physical books
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Samerron
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Even if it costs more, but I prefer physical books for the reason that it's more comfortable to hold it physically rather than staring at the screen.which one guys? I prefer e-books because it cost me less
There are certain books which are good for reference or archive which I prefer to be electronically saved on my computer.
Ninjalore
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which one guys? I prefer e-books because it cost me less
I prefer to have the book in front of me rather than an ebook. However, I have found certain books offered free in EBook format. I've been lucky enough to have certain authors send me free copies of their book too in EBook format. So both have their advantages
Fantasy Moon
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This is the reason that I prefer physical books too. Otherwise I would have completed 120 Days of Sodom a long time ago.Physical also...I can carry it around with me. Reading an eBook on-screen will burn your eyes after a little while- at least it does to me.
Devoted Reader
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I love E-books but have never written one.
A lot of people on this site do not know what an E-book is. Any time I post about liking e-books, the moderator erases my messages. E-books can be downloaded to your PDA, your Blackberry, you cell phone (If it has a viewing screen), and, of course your laptop and PC at home. Just like a paperback, you can hold your "book" in one hand as you read it. Generally, E-books are less expensive than paperbacks, and you can mark the pages for quick reference if you want to use them as a resource.
which one guys? I prefer e-books because it cost me less
A lot of people on this site do not know what an E-book is. Any time I post about liking e-books, the moderator erases my messages. E-books can be downloaded to your PDA, your Blackberry, you cell phone (If it has a viewing screen), and, of course your laptop and PC at home. Just like a paperback, you can hold your "book" in one hand as you read it. Generally, E-books are less expensive than paperbacks, and you can mark the pages for quick reference if you want to use them as a resource.
Stewart
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It's nothing to do with you liking ebooks. It's more to do with your constant mentions of a self-published piece of crap that hasn't seen its way to being proofread.
thebookcrosser
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I simply can't sit at my computer and read a book. It has to be a BOOK - real, physical, in my hands.
Here is a bit I got my from my computer-nut son when we were having the same debate. It is priceless:
Announcing the new Built-in Orderly Organized Knowledge Device
(BOOK)
It's a revolutionary breakthrough in technology: no wires, no electric circuits, no batteries, nothing to be connected or switched on. It's so easy to use even a child can operate it. Compact and portable, it can be used anywhere - even sitting in an armchair by the fire - yet it is powerful enough to hold as much information as a CD-ROM disk.
Here's how it works:
Each BOOK is constructed of sequentially numbered sheets of paper, each capable of holding thousands of bits of information.These pages are locked together with a custom-fit device called a binder that keeps the sheets in their correct sequence. The user scans each sheet optically, registering information directly into his or her brain. A flick of the finger takes the user to the next sheet.
The BOOK may be taken up at any time and used by merely opening it. The "browse" feature allows the user to move instantly to any sheet and to move
forward or backward as desired. Most BOOKs come with an "index" feature that pinpoints the exact location of any selected information for instant
retrieval. An optional "BOOKmark" accessory allows the user to open the BOOK to the exact place left in a previous session - even if the BOOK has been
closed. BOOKmarks fit universal design standards; thus a single BOOKmark can be used in BOOKs by various manufacturers. Portable, durable, and affordable, the BOOK is the entertainment wave of the future, and many new titles are expected soon, due to the surge in popularity of its programming tool, the Portable Erasable-Nib Cryptic Intercommunication Language Stylus (PENCILS).
Here is a bit I got my from my computer-nut son when we were having the same debate. It is priceless:
Announcing the new Built-in Orderly Organized Knowledge Device
(BOOK)
It's a revolutionary breakthrough in technology: no wires, no electric circuits, no batteries, nothing to be connected or switched on. It's so easy to use even a child can operate it. Compact and portable, it can be used anywhere - even sitting in an armchair by the fire - yet it is powerful enough to hold as much information as a CD-ROM disk.
Here's how it works:
Each BOOK is constructed of sequentially numbered sheets of paper, each capable of holding thousands of bits of information.These pages are locked together with a custom-fit device called a binder that keeps the sheets in their correct sequence. The user scans each sheet optically, registering information directly into his or her brain. A flick of the finger takes the user to the next sheet.
The BOOK may be taken up at any time and used by merely opening it. The "browse" feature allows the user to move instantly to any sheet and to move
forward or backward as desired. Most BOOKs come with an "index" feature that pinpoints the exact location of any selected information for instant
retrieval. An optional "BOOKmark" accessory allows the user to open the BOOK to the exact place left in a previous session - even if the BOOK has been
closed. BOOKmarks fit universal design standards; thus a single BOOKmark can be used in BOOKs by various manufacturers. Portable, durable, and affordable, the BOOK is the entertainment wave of the future, and many new titles are expected soon, due to the surge in popularity of its programming tool, the Portable Erasable-Nib Cryptic Intercommunication Language Stylus (PENCILS).
Devoted Reader
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Constant mentions? I mentioned it once and it was erased. I thought that we should be able to mention the books that we liked. Since I did not see the post that I opened my introduction to the board with, I posted something like it again a few days later. I thought that maybe I had not entered it right the first time, as it was the first time I ever posted to the board.
I'm an English Lit minor. I liked the book that I referred to. I know that it was published as a paperback, and that it is selling for $95. I did not see any copy errors in the E-book, but I would never pay $95 for a paperback to see if there were errors there.
What proofreading errors have you noted Stewart? I am interested in why you have such a negative opinion of the best modern book I have read.
Devoted Reader
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Yep, I have read way too many paper books. and your statement that you have to use your HANDS rings so very true. Uncomfortable unless you are sitting. Of course, you can lay down in bed with your pillow under your chest and prop yourself up by bunching the pillows (you need at least two) and read holding the book open, but you have to use the other hand to help turn the page. This is how I study those big college textbooks. Ugh!
I can use my Blackberry and hold it in one hand, while standing in the bus or waiting at the bus station. I can read it in the dark if there is a power outage. Southern California has a lot of them (power outages). I think we are a third world country down here in the South West corner of the US. I can sneak read the E-book at my job if things slow down. I can't do that with a paperback, as it is too obvious. On top of it, when my book rings, I can talk to my girlfriend.
I LOVE E-books!
SevenWritez
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Physical books. E-Books can go suck it.
E-books have thier place and can be good reads if they are 30 pages or so but I could never sit down and read a 400 page business or SF book at the computer.
Not only is it hard on the eyes, I don't have the same kind of patience for sitting and reading off the screen.
There is just something more satisfying about holding it as well as being able to enjoy the art and presentation of the book.
Not only is it hard on the eyes, I don't have the same kind of patience for sitting and reading off the screen.
There is just something more satisfying about holding it as well as being able to enjoy the art and presentation of the book.
Stewart
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No, there were multiple posts about Neubarth.
Yes, but I took the decision that I didn't believe a word of your spiel around the ebook and removed it from display. It had all the hallmarks of self promotion (and it not self, then a vested interest) and, given the sheer quantity of shit self-publishers that gather on these shores pretending to have just read this fantastic book, tell us where we can get it, give a bit of backstory to make the author sound like a real crazy guy, let us know how it's not like other books, be a tad defensive about it, and so on, it's no surprise that the post was removed. It doesn't deserve the time of day.
I notice that it is indeed priced at $94.75 (and $99 too) on Amazon marketplace, by two book traders both based in California. Just like yourself. And, er, Joe Neubarth. Must be a California thing.
I don't have the mobi reader thing installed in my work computer so I can't dig through that rubbish but I did make a note elsewhere of something that should give an example. It's near the beginning where the guy has woken up in the dark place and is wandering around:
See if you can spot the glaring error there.
Because it is a poorly written, sloppy designed, cliche-ridden, unedited, piece of self-published crap by someone who will never ever be considered a writer proper. And if you think that is the best modern book that you have read, then you've read nothing. Period.
thebookcrosser
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I'm behind on the latest technology and have never used a Blackberry. It might, as you say, be a great way to read. It would depend on the size of the print - (small screen, right?).
I like the idea of the portablility. That's a different issue than sitting here at my PC - too confining for me. I'll have to check it out. I haven't even figured out how to use all the features on my cell phone, so.... you see the problem here
Devoted Reader
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I'm still a teenager so have grown up with this stuff.
When all of your friends are showing you the modern advantages of using PDAs and Blackberries and small laptops, it is easy to learn. Start hanging out with the "Younger Crowd" and you might never go back to reading from paper. As it is, I have no need for a newspaper. My father always used to sit at the morning breakfast table and drink his coffee and read the paper. I just read the headlines on the laptop and go to any article that interests me and never have to fold the paper or turn the pages. The heck with paper.
When all of your friends are showing you the modern advantages of using PDAs and Blackberries and small laptops, it is easy to learn. Start hanging out with the "Younger Crowd" and you might never go back to reading from paper. As it is, I have no need for a newspaper. My father always used to sit at the morning breakfast table and drink his coffee and read the paper. I just read the headlines on the laptop and go to any article that interests me and never have to fold the paper or turn the pages. The heck with paper.
thebookcrosser
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You hit it right on. To my son (27), computer technology is as natural as breathing. He and I have the book/VS computer "battle" all the time. I do need to keep up and should take advantage of knowing several young, very computer literate, young adults. It all changes so fast... the energy level of someone in their teens or 20s is flying as fast as technology...makes it easier to keep up. I will make it a goal to just try harder
Devoted Reader
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QUOTE=Stewart;231080
I have a feeling you did not like Hemingway or Zane Grey, either. Are cliches wrong? What are the cliches in your way of thinking? Are we dealing with some sort of hateful bias that possesses you? In my reading for appreciation class I learned one thing and that was that reading is for enjoyment. If the writer can take you to a different land and a different time and hold your attention, he is a good writer, even if he never once used words bigger than five or six letters. I note that the book in question is still the number one selling novel on Amazon-Mobi and that the author is outselling all the major authors in the world. How can that be if the book as you say is a "Piece of Crap?" Word of mouth appears to have people buying it. Most publishing house books are advertised to the heavens in this country!
As regards your crude language, I usually stay away from vulgar words and I think they demean the man who uses them.
I am more than willing to learn from anybody, even an angry old man like yourself. Please tell me what you find objectionable in the book, and I will listen and learn. I love to read, but I love to learn also.
I just hope that I do not become a cranky, old, obnoxious sourpuss in my elder years.
That is wrong. I posted one opening post about how I liked E-books and so on. It was erased. A couple of days later, I could not find my introductory post, so I posted two posts and both of them were erased. I can not even introduce my self to the board if you remove the introductory posts. One introductory post was strictly about E-books, and it was removed. How can anybody introduce himself in his introductory posts are removed?
I have bought books from Boski books before, he is an established book seller, and you may check with Amazon about him. There was another book seller in Seattle who was selling the book at that same price, too. the new seller I do not know. Over ten percent of the large population of the United States lives in California. It is the most populous state in the Union. Most of the people in the state live in the south. I think they like the weather down here.
Sorry, I can not find it. Perhaps that is the result of your British Isle English verses my [referred American English. American English is the world standard. You Europeans need to learn how to talk correctly.
I have a feeling you did not like Hemingway or Zane Grey, either. Are cliches wrong? What are the cliches in your way of thinking? Are we dealing with some sort of hateful bias that possesses you? In my reading for appreciation class I learned one thing and that was that reading is for enjoyment. If the writer can take you to a different land and a different time and hold your attention, he is a good writer, even if he never once used words bigger than five or six letters. I note that the book in question is still the number one selling novel on Amazon-Mobi and that the author is outselling all the major authors in the world. How can that be if the book as you say is a "Piece of Crap?" Word of mouth appears to have people buying it. Most publishing house books are advertised to the heavens in this country!
As regards your crude language, I usually stay away from vulgar words and I think they demean the man who uses them.
I am more than willing to learn from anybody, even an angry old man like yourself. Please tell me what you find objectionable in the book, and I will listen and learn. I love to read, but I love to learn also.
I just hope that I do not become a cranky, old, obnoxious sourpuss in my elder years.