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I had not yet met someone who hated Alice in Wonderland![]()
Just for your information, since you're clearly wrong!, it's the greatest book ever written!!!
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Why is that? I've never read Alice. Is it as good as you make it sound?
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I had not yet met someone who hated Alice in Wonderland![]()
Just for your information, since you're clearly wrong!, it's the greatest book ever written!!!
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Not if you know the history of the word, which I do, thanks to What is Goth? by Voltaire. First it was used to describe a Germanic tribe who were considered barbarians for taking over "civilized" Rome. Then it was used to describe a type of architecture that wasn't classical and at the time was considered barbaric, so it was compared to a barbaric tribe. Later, when gothic novels came out, they were also considered barbaric and dark, so they recieved the name gothic. Later some of those books, like Dracula, were made into movies and were called gothic movies. Apparently, this little offshoot of the punk scene that dressed in black adopted some of the makeup and clothing styles seen in gothic movies. So they became known as gothic people, or as goths. I'm sure there are fictional books somewhere out there that focus on modern gothic culture, but I can't say for sure what they are.i'm not sure what you expected from 'gothic novel' but it's not a modern vampire story where everyone dresses all in black. AT the time this was written, this was an entire genre meant to be romantic and slightly scary(although to modern readers it isn't). I think the biggest problem for you was that you expected it to be something that it wasn't, because you're used to reading things that are more modern.
Outlander by Diana Gabaldon. Hated it. Highly recommended, but hated it.
What's Underworld about? I ask because I'm looking for my next DeLillo novel. I enjoyed Libra a lot, mostly because I like cold war paranoia and conspiracy theories about JFK, and detested White Noise. But I'm trying not to give up on him yet.
Ahhhh, sounds wonderful![]()
But baseball? I'm sure it's a great game... for Americans. But I bloody hate baseball!

Nope, the intelligent world here in the US of A hates baseball, too. Me, I hate anything where all you do is sit and watch a bunch of overpaid middle-aged men chasing after a little ball like they're in the first grade. I like karate and thigns like that, but sports just confuse me.Ahhhh, sounds wonderful![]()
But baseball? I'm sure it's a great game... for Americans. But I bloody hate baseball!
I agree that it did start of slowly, but it more than made up for it with the rest of the book. Jamie is probably my all-time favourite character, and for once I actually liked the female lead (usually I find them a bit annoying). You should definitely try and finish it if you didn't manage to the first time!Uh oh........brand new and I'm already in the doghouse!I read about 300 pages and just kept waiting for it to take off and it didn't. I just could not figure out what all the fuss was about, to be honest.
