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Discussion in 'Book Search & Suggestions' started by shadow9d9, Oct 4, 2006.

  1. shadow9d9

    shadow9d9 New Member

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    I just finished the Rowan, which was, unfortunately, only average to me... I'm running out of new sci fi/fantasy books with new authors to try.. here is my list of readings in the last 2 years with 5 being the rest. Keep in mind that I still have and WILL BE reading the rest of Bujold's books, rest of fire and ice, the next 3 dragonrider of pern books, Crystal singer, The Left Hand of Darkness, and Watership Down. I also just purchased the first Secret of Ash book.

    Keep in mind that I have little interest in older sci fi(heinlein, asimov) or very quest oriented sci fi/fantasy(deed of paksenarrion, the hobbit)...

    3 of Arthur C. Clarke's short stories Big Game hunter+ - 1.3
    Murder on the Orient Express- 3.875
    A Song of Fire and Ice Game of Thrones - 4.7
    Dragonriders of Pern Dragonflight - 4.55
    Dragonquest-4.55
    The White Dragon- 4.25
    Dragonsong- 3.6
    Dragonsinger- 3.65
    Dragondrums- 3.65
    The Rowan- 3.65
    Vorkosigan Warrior's Apprentice- 4.35
    Shards Of Honor- 3.2
    Ethan of Athos- 3.6
    Falling Free- 3.5
    Barrayar- 4.3
    The Vore Game- 4.0
    Cetaganda- 4.3
    Borders of Infinity 1- 3.8
    2- 4.35
    3- 4.25
    Brothers in Arms- 4.35
    Mirror Dance- 3.9
    Good Omens-4.3
    Discworld- A Colour of Magic- 3.1
    A Light Fantastic- 3.2
    Equal Rites- 2.9
    Mort -3.75
    Sourcery- 3.8
    Wyrd Sisters- 3.4
    Pyramids- 3.7
    Eric- 3.5
    Guards! Guards! -3.95
    Moving Pictures- 3.4
    Reaper Man- 4.0
    Witches abroad- 4.25
    Small Gods- 1
    Fahrenheit 451- 3.6
    Stranger in a Strange Land- 2
    Neverwhere-3.7
    Star Trek Unity- 2
    Star Trek Avatar 1-2 -3.85
    Star Trek A Stitch in Time a 4.25
    Star Trek 34th rule- 3.8
    Star Trek Abyss- 3.6
    Star Trek Left Hand of Destiny 1-2 -3.2
    Star Trek Legends of the Ferengi- 3.9
    Star Trek Worlds Of Deep Space Nine Book 1 Cardassia- 2
    Just a Geek- 4.2
    The Hobbit- 2.5
    Something Wicked this Way Comes- 3.2
    Ilium- Unreadable
    Deed of Paksenarrion- Didn't finish, 2.5
     
  2. Honeybee

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    I'd suggest Raymond E Feist, Ian Irvine and Robin Hobb. As for which ones, check Amazon.:)
     
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    The one by Anne McCaffrey? I read that a long time ago, and did like it. Just not enough to read any of the sequels.
     
  4. direstraits

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    Shadow... why don't you enter these into the Vote Top Scifi/Fantasy thread? I know, I know, it's bloody late, but it's not dead, and I've not forgotten about it. :)

    Yeah, another Bujold fan! :) I love Bujold - I love her depiction of a flawed hero, with a razorsharp wit (albeit in somewhat farfetched circumstances i.e. the formation of the Dendarii Free Mercenaries).

    Song of Ice and Fire is a given... no surprise there.

    I've not read Pern - I'm a little biased against mixing my dragons with spaceships (except Star Wars). Watership Down is on my TBR.

    I would place this with a higher score, but I can see why you gave your score - especially when one is exposed to her Miles books...

    I'm curious - why isn't this readable? I have this in my TBR pile. It mixes Greek Mythology, my favourite subject, with scifi.

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    "Ilium- Unreadable
    I'm curious - why isn't this readable? I have this in my TBR pile. It mixes Greek Mythology, my favourite subject, with scifi."

    I seem not to like history at all in my fantasy/sci fi books...Plus, I am not a fan of anything Greek. My best friend, which is a classics major, loved it and recommended it to me.

    I found it hard to follow and the characters just didn't grab me...
    However, if you like greek mythology, you will be much more predisposed to liking it than I!
     
  6. shadow9d9

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    After taking a look at the rated books thread, I had to turn away in disgust...

    The reason being that everyone seems to give nostalgic books higher ratings... therefore it is not as accurate as the way I did it, where I rated them fresh from reading and balanced the scale accordingly to offset early highly rated books once I found better books to compare them to.

    Plus, whenever I see multiple people giving Stranger in a Strange Land a 9 or 10, I just get nauseous... the book started off decently enough, but halfway through, the story absolutely collapses.. and instead of continuing the story, the author uses the characters to make incredibly long monologues that are just speeches by the author preeching his views on life... The actually story and characters cease to be at this point...

    Maybe it was unique when it came out, but for a new reader in this day and age, it is complete garbage..

    My scale is pretty harsh, and I only give the absolute best high scores.. other people don't seem to be critical, which leads their recommendations to be kinda worthless.
     
  7. direstraits

    direstraits Well-Known Member

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    You mean you don't like real history mixed in with your fantasy/scifi? GRRM's SoIaF has plenty of history - albeit made-up ones.

    I just noticed you're not exactly new here. Back from a long holiday? :)

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  8. shadow9d9

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    Yes, made up history, isn't history to me... I simply have trouble mixing real history with made up elements.

    Yes, as you see by my list and notice of the books I still have yet to read, I had quite a list .. but now that I am nearing the end of my exposure to new authors, I am now looking for new things...

    I also have months at a time where I feel like doing other things like playing video games and watching sci fi tv... and then I go and read one book a day for 2 weeks... I am weird that way : ).

    And one more separate comment... not one person in the recommendation thread mentioned Bujold's stuff..!
     
  9. direstraits

    direstraits Well-Known Member

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    You know, recently I've been thinking about the implementation of the Top 100 list myself. The list is by no means accurate, but I think of it as more of a way to find new books, rather than to depict an accurate picture of what's really a good book.

    Anyway, I think the existing votes is worth participating for the reasons I stated, but let me say that I understand your point of view as well.

    I've been thinking about how to give the list a little more 'credibility' - which is something it doesn't have for the precise reasons you (and others) gave. I have thought up an algorithm, and I think it solves this problem - that is, give you a Top 100 list that discerning readers will actually agree with (to a certain point, of course... someone's best isn't always your own). At least it wouldn't get crowded at the top with popular best sellers only.

    But this algorithm in my head needs to be implemented first to see if it works in practice.

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    I don't know if you've tried Guy Gavriel Kay. If you haven't, trust me and do yourself a favour - go get Tigana or Lions of Al-Rassan or The Sarantine Mosaic duology (Sailing to Sarantium and Lord of Emperors), and be amazed. If you appreciate strong writing, memorable characters and brilliant story, you will not be disapointed.

    If you're into something completely different, try China Mieville or Jeff Vandermeer. I read Jeff Vandermeer not too long ago - his Veniss Underground, and found it quite entertaining, if a little similar in feel with Mieville.

    Well, looks like we've more than Bujold in common. My mileage varies, but the pattern's the same.

    Hang on... I thought I did. It didn't make the list, but it's in my votes. If you know of people in the forum whom you think may fit your taste, try looking for the person in the Vote thread - you'll find plenty of gems not listed in the Top 100.

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    I've heard some good things about Guy Gavriel Kay, but when I read amazon reviews, it seemed like his stories were semi based in real life history.. is that not the case?
     
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    K, just ordered Tigana and Perdido Street Station. Since you like Bujold and character stories, any other suggestions?
     
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    Top 200 sci-fi books!!!! enjoy

    Top 200 Science Fiction Books
    Alf Inge Fredriksen

    Hi heres a booklist i found somewhere on the net, top 200 sci-fi books!
    I just read a trilogy called Gateway by Fredrik Pohl, its just fantastic! You love it to. If you want the books you can mail me, and ill give them to you.
    ice-t@tele2.no you can also get my booklist with over 21 thousand ebooks mainly fiction, sci-fi and some non-fiction if you want it... Please mail me your own booklist if you got any... :)

    Rank Author/Editor Title Year
    6 Douglas Adams The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy [S1] 1979
     126 Brian Aldiss Hothouse 1962
     94 Brian Aldiss Helliconia Spring [S1] 1982
     91 Poul Anderson Tau Zero 1970
     29 Isaac Asimov [C] I, Robot 1950
     4 Isaac Asimov Foundation [S1-3] 1951
     50 Isaac Asimov The Caves of Steel 1954
     112 Isaac Asimov The End Of Eternity 1955
     47 Isaac Asimov The Gods Themselves 1972
     83 Isaac Asimov (et al) [eds] [A] Hugo Winners/New Hugo Winners 1962
     157 Isaac Asimov [ed] [A] Before the Golden Age 1974
     73 Margaret Atwood The Handmaid's Tale 1985
     175 J G Ballard The Drowned World 1962
     86 Iain M Banks Player Of Games 1988
     123 Iain M Banks Use of Weapons 1990
     191 John Barnes Mother of Storms 1994
     156 Stephen Baxter The Time Ships 1995
     65 Greg Bear Blood Music 1985
     102 Greg Bear Eon 1985
     143 Greg Bear Darwin's Radio 1999
     54 Gregory Benford Timescape 1980
     22 Alfred Bester The Demolished Man 1953
     27 Alfred Bester The Stars My Destination 1956
     118 Michael Bishop No Enemy But Time 1982
     93 James Blish [C] Earthman, Come Home 1955
     80 James Blish A Case of Conscience 1958
     64 Ben Bova [ed] [A] The Best of the Nebulas 1989
     17 Ray Bradbury [C] The Martian Chronicles 1950
     10 Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451 1954
     35 David Brin Startide Rising [S2] 1983
     92 David Brin The Postman 1985
     55 David Brin The Uplift War [S3] 1987
     181 David Brin Kiln People 2002
     34 John Brunner Stand on Zanzibar 1969
     141 John Brunner The Sheep Look Up 1972
     184 John Brunner The Shockwave Rider 1975
     179 Algis Budrys Rogue Moon 1960
     70 Lois McMaster Bujold Barrayar [S2] 1991
     148 Lois McMaster Bujold Memory [S12] 1996
     127 Lois McMaster Bujold A Civil Campaign [S11] 1999
     39 Anthony Burgess A Clockwork Orange 1962
     66 Edgar Rice Burroughs A Princess of Mars [S1] 1912
     168 Octavia Butler Parable of the Sower 1993
    2 Orson Scott Card Ender's Game [S1] 1985
    41 Orson Scott Card Speaker for the Dead [S2] 1986
     19 Orson Scott Card Ender's Shadow [S1] 1999
     63 C J Cherryh Downbelow Station 1981
     101 C J Cherryh Cyteen 1988
     197 John Christopher The Death of Grass 1956
     177 Clarke & Lee Rama Revealed 1994
     15 Arthur C Clarke Childhood's End 1954
     81 Arthur C Clarke The City and the Stars 1956
     37 Arthur C Clarke 2001: A Space Odyssey 1968
     23 Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama 1973
     79 Arthur C Clarke The Fountains of Paradise 1979
     74 Hal Clement Mission of Gravity 1953
     158 John Crowley Engine Summer 1979
     144 L Sprague DeCamp Lest Darkness Fall 1939
     111 Samuel R Delany Babel-17 1966
     160 Samuel R Delany The Einstein Intersection 1966
     185 Samuel R Delany Nova 1968
     105 Samuel R Delany Dhalgren 1975
     30 Philip K Dick The Man in the High Castle 1962
     72 Philip K Dick Three Stigmata Of Palmer Eldritch 1964
     24 Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? 1968
     59 Philip K Dick Ubik 1969
     187 Philip K Dick VALIS 1981
     130 Gordon R Dickson Dorsai (vt The Genetic General) 1960
     110 Thomas M Disch Camp Concentration 1968
     71 Gardner Dozois [ed] [A] The Year's Best Science Fiction 1984
     188 George Alec Effinger When Gravity Fails 1987
     152 Greg Egan Permutation City 1994
     182 Greg Egan Diaspora 1997
     119 Harlan Ellison [C] Deathbird Stories 1975
     32 Harlan Ellison [ed] [A] Dangerous Visions 1967
     122 Harlan Ellison [ed] [A] Again, Dangerous Visions 1972
     57 Philip José Farmer To Your Scattered Bodies Go 1971
     125 Robert L Forward Dragon's Egg 1980
     153 Pat Frank Alas, Babylon 1959
     96 Gibson & Sterling The Difference Engine 1990
    7 William Gibson Neuromancer 1984
     113 William Gibson [C] Burning Chrome 1986
     129 William Gibson Pattern Recognition 2003
     180 James Gunn [ed] [A] The Road to Science Fiction [S1-4] 1977
     12 Joe Haldeman The Forever War 1974
     161 Joe Haldeman Forever Peace 1997
     120 James L Halperin The Truth Machine 1997
     139 Peter F Hamilton The Reality Dysfunction [S1] 1996
     166 Harry Harrison The Stainless Steel Rat [S1] 1961
     146 Harry Harrison Make Room! Make Room! 1966
     97 Robert A Heinlein The Puppet Masters 1951
     85 Robert A Heinlein The Door Into Summer 1956
     95 Robert A Heinlein Double Star 1956
     174 Robert A Heinlein Citizen Of the Galaxy 1957
     106 Robert A Heinlein Have Space-Suit - Will Travel 1958
     16 Robert A Heinlein Starship Troopers 1959
     5 Robert A Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land 1961
     11 Robert A Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress 1966
     98 Robert A Heinlein [C] The Past Through Tomorrow 1967
     62 Robert A Heinlein Time Enough For Love 1973
    1 Frank Herbert Dune [S1] 1965
     163 Russell Hoban Riddley Walker 1980
     18 Aldous Huxley Brave New World 1932
     25 Daniel Keyes Flowers for Algernon 1966
     121 Nancy Kress Beggars in Spain 1993
     8 Ursula K Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness 1969
     84 Ursula K Le Guin The Lathe of Heaven 1971
     20 Ursula K Le Guin The Dispossessed 1974
     138 Fritz Leiber The Big Time 1958
     77 Stanislaw Lem Solaris 1970
     164 Stanislaw Lem [C] The Cyberiad 1974
     58 Madeleine L'Engle A Wrinkle In Time 1962
     169 Jonathan Lethem Gun, With Occasional Music 1994
     131 C S Lewis Out of the Silent Planet [S1] 1938
     189 Jack McDevitt Engines of God 1994
     107 Vonda N McIntyre Dreamsnake 1978
     21 Walter M Miller A Canticle for Leibowitz 1959
     196 Elizabeth Moon The Speed of Dark 2003
     136 Richard Morgan Altered Carbon 2002
     46 Audrey Niffenegger The Time Traveler's Wife 2003
     33 Niven & Pournelle The Mote in God's Eye 1975
     82 Niven & Pournelle Lucifer's Hammer 1977
     176 Larry Niven [C] Neutron Star 1968
    9 Larry Niven Ringworld 1970
    3 George Orwell Nineteen Eighty-Four 1949
     135 Edgar Pangborn A Mirror for Observers 1954
     155 Alexei Panshin Rite of Passage 1968
     67 Pohl & Kornbluth The Space Merchants 1953
     100 Frederik Pohl Man Plus 1976
     14 Frederik Pohl Gateway 1977
     61 Tim Powers The Anubis Gates 1983
     192 Christopher Priest Inverted World 1969
     162 Alastair Reynolds Revelation Space 2000
     159 Keith Roberts Pavane 1968
     44 Kim Stanley Robinson Red Mars 1992
     165 Kim Stanley Robinson The Years Of Rice and Salt 2002
     117 Joanna Russ The Female Man 1975
     104 Mary Doria Russell The Sparrow 1996
     190 Richard Paul Russo Ship of Fools 2001
     183 Robert J Sawyer Hominids [S1] 2002
     178 James H Schmitz The Witches Of Karres 1966
     48 Mary Shelley Frankenstein 1818
     69 Robert Silverberg Dying Inside 1972
     88 Robert Silverberg [ed] [A] Science Fiction Hall of Fame 1 1970
     76 Clifford Simak [C] City 1952
     49 Clifford Simak Way Station 1963
     13 Dan Simmons Hyperion 1989
     142 Dan Simmons Ilium 2003
     147 Cordwainer Smith Norstrilia 1975
     149 Cordwainer Smith [C] The Rediscovery of Man 1975
     90 E E 'Doc' Smith Grey Lensman [S4] 1951
     195 Norman Spinrad Bug Jack Barron 1969
     103 Olaf Stapledon Last and First Men 1930
     132 Olaf Stapledon Star Maker 1937
     36 Neal Stephenson Snow Crash 1992
     52 Neal Stephenson The Diamond Age 1995
     60 Neal Stephenson Cryptonomicon 1999
     133 Bruce Sterling Islands in the Net 1988
     193 Bruce Sterling Distraction 1998
     124 Bruce Sterling [ed] [A] Mirrorshades 1986
     109 Robert Louis Stevenson Strange Case Of Dr Jekyll & Mr Hyde 1886
     68 George R Stewart Earth Abides 1949
     99 Arkady & Boris Strugatsky Roadside Picnic 1972
     40 Theodore Sturgeon More Than Human 1953
     128 Michael Swanwick Stations of the Tide 1991
     194 James Tiptree Jr [C] Her Smoke Rose Up Forever 1990
     173 Harry Turtledove Worldwar: In the Balance [S1] 1994
     140 Mark Twain A Connecticut Yankee in KA's Court 1889
     115 A E Van Vogt Slan 1946
     154 A E Van Vogt The World of Null-A 1948
     137 John Varley [C] The Persistence Of Vision 1978
     114 John Varley Titan 1979
     75 Jules Verne Journey to the Center of the Earth 1864
     51 Jules Verne 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea 1870
     87 Joan D Vinge The Snow Queen 1980
     42 Vernor Vinge A Fire Upon the Deep [S1] 1991
     170 Kurt Vonnegut Player Piano 1952
     78 Kurt Vonnegut The Sirens of Titan 1959
     56 Kurt Vonnegut Cat's Cradle 1963
    43 Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse Five 1969
     198 Ian Watson The Embedding 1973
     26 H G Wells The Time Machine 1895
     116 H G Wells The Invisible Man 1897
     31 H G Wells The War of the Worlds 1898
     134 Kate Wilhelm Where Late the Sweet Birds Sang 1976
     199 Jack Williamson The Humanoids 1949
     45 Connie Willis Doomsday Book 1992
     108 Connie Willis To Say Nothing Of the Dog 1997
     167 Connie Willis Passage 2001
     186 Robert Charles Wilson The Chronoliths 2001
     38 Gene Wolfe The Shadow of the Torturer [S1] 1980
     53 John Wyndham The Day of the Triffids 1951
     151 John Wyndham The Chrysalids 1955
     171 John Wyndham The Midwich Cuckoos 1957
     150 Yevgeny Zamiatin We 1924
     89 Roger Zelazny This Immortal 1966
     172 Roger Zelazny Dream Master 1966
     28 Roger Zelazny Lord of Light 1967
     145 Roger Zelazny [C] Doors of His Face, Lamps of His Mouth 1971
     200 Sarah Zettel Fool's War 1997
     
  14. direstraits

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    GGK's works are roughly modeled on real histories (except the Fionavar Tapestry, which is based on LOTR - I wrote a review of it here - search for it in the Fionavar thread). But the setting is masked in a rich alternate universe, and the history is faked, so it shouldn't matter anyway. :)

    Perdido Street Station I enjoyed, but there were parts I had mixed feelings about. Overall okay, and I have The Scar as a result. I also wrote about PSS here, but I'd be interested to know what you think when you get around to it. Life changing experiences (i.e. Kay's Tigana) should go first, methinks.

    I'm afraid I find authors I really *really* like hard to come by - I suppose I've gotten a little too jaded. Steven Erikson is well regarded, but when I tried Gardens of the Moon, I found it not incredibly convincing. There were people who told me he made a jump in quality in his subsequent books, so I have his Deadhouse Gates sitting on my TBR.

    R. Scott Bakker is another whom I learnt from this forum. I have the first two books of his The Prince of Nothing trilogy here. However, until I get the third book, I will not start on his trilogy, so it waits. :)

    Well, it's a little different from the books I've mentioned so far, but I loved A Wizard of Earthsea by Ursula Le Guin. It's the first part of her Earthsea books - it's short, and you might like it.

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    I am enjoying Left Hand of Darkness a lot right now, so I might indeed try more of her stuff.
     
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    Spy vs Spy. Interesting, and brings back lots of memories. Welcome to the forum, btw. :)

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    Well, Left Hand of Darkness was all round great. I then went and tried Crystal Singer and stopped around page 130.. it suffered from the same problem of The Rowan... nothing interesting ever happened! Think I'm gonna try Watership Down next while awaiting new books in the mail..
     
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    Update: A Darkness that came before was fantastic!
     
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    I'm a bit late with this one, sorry, havent been on much. I would agree very much with this recommendation; The Riftwar series (Magician, Silverthorn and A Darkness At Sethanon) is a must-read for any fantasy lover, especially Magician.
     

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