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The Bible

Roxbrough

Member
Some would put it in one collumn while others would put it in another?
Fact or Fiction?
Or poetry?
Or an historical document?
Don't forget how many translations it has been through too?
 
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Peder

Well-Known Member
Some would put it in one collumn while others would put it in another?
Fact or Fiction?
Or poetry?
Or an historical document?
Don't forget how many translations it has been through too?
Its own category. Same as, for example, biography, engineering, travel, science, cookbooks, dictionaries, history, childrens, YA, all of which had their separate categories on the shelves at my now defunct Borders bookstore and at my current Barnes and Noble pretty much.. :)
 

Sneezy

Well-Known Member
I'm going to leave this, and see what response it gets. If it gets too heated ....

Wars, milady. Wars so terrible the stench of them hangs in the air infinitum. Wars so long the original blows weren't even in memory when the last ones fell. Wars fought in the name of one god or another. Wars of righteous certitude. Wars, milady.

Yes, sacred texts along the lines of the Bhagavad Gita, Qu'ran, Torah, . . .

Agree.
 

Peder

Well-Known Member
Wars, milady. Wars so terrible the stench of them hangs in the air infinitum. Wars so long the original blows weren't even in memory when the last ones fell. Wars fought in the name of one god or another. Wars of righteous certitude. Wars, milady.

Not quite, when I read it.
 

Peder

Well-Known Member
Not the books, good sir, but the disagreements about them among men.
Ah! I clicked on a thread called The Bible and took that to be your referent. My goof! Sorry.
Well then, among men? Still sounds like poetic hyperbole to me and at variance with its total impact on Western Civilization.
As third possibility -- relating to forum discussions and Meadow's suspended comment, "If it gets too heated . . . ," -- he few times The Bible has been discussed here have been notably well behaved in my memory.
But to each his own. :)
Cheers
 

sparkchaser

Administrator and Stuntman
Staff member
Ah! I clicked on a thread called The Bible and took that to be your referent. My goof! Sorry.
Well then, among men? Still sounds like poetic hyperbole to me and at variance with its total impact on Western Civilization.
As third possibility -- relating to forum discussions and Meadow's suspended comment, "If it gets too heated . . . ," -- he few times The Bible has been discussed here have been notably well behaved in my memory.
But to each his own. :)
Cheers

Ha! That's what you get for not reading the whole thread. :rofl
 

Peder

Well-Known Member
Ha! That's what you get for not reading the whole thread. :rofl
Ah, Swami says.
Actually I had read the whole thread, and thought my response was appropriate since it was Meadows post that was quoted with the reply. But no big deal if you think you know what I was thinking. If you can follow that, now try divining the threads I don't read at all. :D
 
Yes, sacred texts along the lines of the Bhagavad Gita, Qu'ran, Torah, . . .

Yes. Exactly. I think most bookstores and libraries put it with religious reference books. Non-fiction. Reference.
I've read it. The whole thing. Several times. It is worth it, just so you can tell when people argue it, who knows what they are actually talking about.
 

odmaldi

New Member
You'll have to keep in mind that the Bible is not just one book, but a collection of many; an anthology if you will. So, I'll have to say that it's many genres in one whole collection and, like others said, should be added to the "religious texts" pile.
 
If the bible is fiction or non-fiction? it depends on your faith, then it is a self-categorized book, it has no absolute category. Or belongs to both...
 

SFG75

Well-Known Member
We must be cautious regarding reckless classification, lest we fall into an exercise of that validates the theory of solipsism. The part of the Bible can be divided into historical writing, poetical books, literature, as well as writings on law specific to the Hebrews. The issue of translation is a rather moot one. No one disputes the authenticity of Beowulf and undoubtedly, even it's interpretation today might be different due to wording that different linguistic systems use. The process of textual criticism is a rather rigorous process. I doubt the story of Abraham has changed significantly story wise from what was once, the original writing. Even with the passage of time and multiple interpretations, we have processes in place to get a good bead on what is legit and why it was written.
 

Peder

Well-Known Member
No one disputes the authenticity of Beowulf and undoubtedly, even it's interpretation today might be different due to wording that different linguistic systems use. The process of textual criticism is a rather rigorous process. I doubt the story of Abraham has changed significantly story wise from what was once, the original writing. Even with the passage of time and multiple interpretations, we have processes in place to get a good bead on what is legit and why it was written.

What you say is certainly correct. However, the more I see and think about the human condition here on Earth, the more I am convinced that almost any question of significance can be found already addressed in the Bible. There is a lot of truth in the assertion that 'there is nothing new under the sun'. Only the answers differ from then until now and, depending upon one's inclination, not all are inappropriate it seems to me. So, in what category might its subject matter place the Book (or books)? Moral guidance?
I personally believe the book is worth reading (along with Beowulf, and Gilgamesh), no matter the category one places it in -- simply to know what is in it.
Just saying.
 
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Ryan Bey

New Member
I would place it as a historical document and under religious text. It is a reference to our guiding people in prior and lesser times. The text itself can be disproved and is claimed as being both literally the word of god and simply serving as guidance. It is generalised guidance from lesser times. I wrote a book named "Life is a Test" that shows how the stories of Christianity were created and how it subsequently disproves Islam as a religion and shows the basis for Judaism. They revolve around the same subject. Yet the majority are unaware. You can also disprove Christianity's claim to being the word of a perfect god via basic logic. It is also possible to utilise the subject that the stories of Christianity emanated from to provide specified guidance quickly now that we have this digital platform. The book is available via Amazon if anyone wants to read it. I hope it's alright to mention that here. The religions I have mentioned signify a timeline of human progress toward understanding this circumstance further.
 
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