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chiangmaifalcon

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I know I am an old guy so have different view than younger people, but these actors that play tough guys in movies today are pretty pathetic, in my opinion. I worked in maximum security prisons for many years and the convicts would watch movies and laugh like hell watching actors like Leonardo Dicarpio, Adrian Brody, and Colin Farell playing tough guys. The convicts used to tell me that if these guys got locked up they would be someone's girlfriend the first day. The old movies had real believable tough guys like Lee Marvin, Robert Mitchum and Jack Palance. Also real-life fighters like Chuck Norris and Bruce Lee. The only actors I can think of among the younger ones who seem tough at all are Russell Crowe and Wesley Snipes. maybe Kiefer Sutherland in 24, though that is tv show. There are others I am sure, but my memory is not so good anymore and I just cannot think of any right now.
 
Absolutely! I've been saying for years that, instead of auditions, they should be throwing men into tiger pits and only give them the job if they can kill their way out using only their own teeth and nails as weapons.

My friend runs an acting school where the morning lessons for the chaps involve being whipped with chains until the little wimps learn not to bleed. If any of them cry he just shoots them in the face and flushes their puny little pansy arsed bodies down the loo.

Feelings are for girls. Men with emotions sicken me. No one wants three-dimensional characters and plot development. We just want to see people being brutally murdered by men with tattoos, bad attitudes and one day to work before retirement. If one of them could be black while the other is white, that would be pretty sweet too. Also, there should be alligators flying helipcopters.

Seems like these convicted criminals are really smart guys.
 
Well, given that Vin Diesel still has a career, I'm not sure I'd say the breed is completely dead. That said, there's a reason most "tough guys" to show up on screen in recent years are to some extent parodies (say, Shoot Em Up) or deconstructions (any Clint Eastwood film since 1992). There's only so much you can do with a fairly boring character type.
 
I think some people miss the point. I am not saying there should be only tough guy movies. I am only saying that if there is a tough guy movie, there should be an actor playing a tough guy who is believable. I do not think Charles Bronson would be a good choice to play a hairdresser but yet today you see this little skinny baby-face guys playing gangsters and gladiators and such.
 
chiangmaifalcon said:
I think some people miss the point. I am not saying there should be only tough guy movies. I am only saying that if there is a tough guy movie, there should be an actor playing a tough guy who is believable. I do not think Charles Bronson would be a good choice to play a hairdresser but yet today you see this little skinny baby-face guys playing gangsters and gladiators and such.
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I am with you on the DiCaprio guy,not believable at all.I understand what you are saying though,it's like soon we will see Beiber in a movie playing a tough guy.
 
Ah,iIremember the badassness that was Snake Plissken :sad:...

I'm a big fan of 70,80's and 90's movies,even though I'm 16. My friends say I live in the past a lot.
 
If you miss it just watch the expendables when its out to get your fill or the older "tough guys"

My god Bieber in Die Hard 5 or the next James Bond hahaha!
 
I'm reminded of something Bruce Campbell said at a fan event a few years ago.

THE BRUCE: I just got off the phone with Sam Raimi, and I'm sure you'll all be happy to know that we're going to make Evil Dead 4.
AUDIENCE: *cheers*
THE BRUCE: It's going to star Ashton Kutcher.
AUDIENCE: *boos*
THE BRUCE: What? You don't want to see Ashton Kutcher get raped by a tree?
 
chiangmaifalcon said:
actors that play tough guys in movies today are pretty pathetic, in my opinion.
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It's a Hollywood decision so the latest eye-candyman will be portraying the toughs to assure big box office success, no matter how unrealistic it seems. But since movies are generally not about realism, most moviegoers won't care.

Only independent filmmakers will continue to have tough looking men to play the role of tough guys.
 
Gerard Butler in the 300 looked the part, and the Bond franchise sort of left the pretty boy cliche behind when they picked up Daniel Craig (I think?). Statham looks pretty tough in most of his movies... Viggo Mortensen, at least in the two Cronenberg films, looked the part.
But still, none of these guys matches up to Eastwood, Bronson, or any of the other old school tough guys.
 
Occlith said:
It's a Hollywood decision so the latest eye-candyman will be portraying the toughs to assure big box office success, no matter how unrealistic it seems. But since movies are generally not about realism, most moviegoers won't care.

Only independent filmmakers will continue to have tough looking men to play the role of tough guys.
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As opposed to plain-looking, chubby or flat-chested women being cast in tough girl roles to make those movies more realistic? :D

I think we have plenty of tough guys, though I agree that Di Caprio is most definitely NOT one of them. And neither is Adrien Brody (seriously? someone actually claimed he was a tough guy?). As for Colin Farrell, well, I don't really have an opinion.
 
In England they use the term 'hard' men. I think i fear that trait more. (rent 'Bronson')

For a tough/hard man i love the Mark Wahlberg character of Swagger in the movie 'Shooter'. A man you do not want to piss off.
Fuqua - 'Training Days' 'Lightning in a Bottle' directs.

and a few of the other Hunter novels are excellent
 
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