U.K. 42 day detention plan

[ylris611203]

But if increasing it from 28 to 42 means people are safer, then surely increasing it from 42 to 90 would make them even safer? Why would you be for one and against the other?

I am not against 90 days, we would be safer with 90 days, but the government were only voting on whether to keep to the 28 days or increase it to 42............the 42 won.

I thought you said that So which is it?

The likelihood it that the 42 days WILL only be used for suspected terrorists BUT once the 42 days are in place it could then be used, in years to come, for other suspected crimes.

The obvious answer is to keep to the 28 days, but for suspected terrorists have the 42 days. But because of political correctness this won't happen.

 

[Disenthral]

This thread has successfully made me laugh out loud at different points of ridiculousness.

 

[Litany]

Are you a terrorist?

 

[Disenthral]

domestic terrorisms ago!


side note, i once ordered a RECORD from germany and when it arrived it had bright green tape on it that said homeland security and it had been opened.

 

[Sybarite]

No I am NOT wrong. Now you say why you think I am.

Chris, you need to get your password sorted out, because obviously it must have been someone else who posted:

... We have a problem here called politically correctness. A TV programme I watched this morning said that because of the present terrorist threat, 176,000 white males were stopped and searched last year; yet there has never been a white male terrorist. A complete waste of police recourses...

You have been proved wrong.

So either someone else is posting from your account or you're schizoid or just too stupid to remember or understand what you've already posted.

 

[Litany]

I told you he wouldn't read it. No one ever listens to me.

 

[Sybarite]

I told you he wouldn't read it. No one ever listens to me.

Who are you?

 

[ylris611203]

Chris, you need to get your password sorted out, because obviously it must have been someone else who posted:
You have been proved wrong.
So either someone else is posting from your account or you're schizoid or just too stupid to remember or understand what you've already posted.

I think you are clutching at straws here.

I have quoted what was discussed on The Wright Stuff. The point being that a lot of police time is wasted stopping white males; this being done for political correctness rather that to catch terrorists and I agree, as did some of the panel on the show.

You have pointed out that a white male can also be Muslim. If any of the recent London bombers were white Muslim (although I would dispute your use of the word Muslim, since I don't think that any bomber could be classed a true Muslim and I'm sure most Muslim's would agree) then The Wright Stuff omitted to say this and you will be able to tell us who this convicted bomber was.

Even if the programme did not say this or you don't provide a name, it's not relevant to the point.

When a topic like immigration, terrorists, asylum seekers, culture etc. is raised for discussion there are those who seem unable to discuss this in a sensible way without using words like your favourite word 'bigot' in the hope of undermining the other persons view.

Police have limited resources and these resources have to be used in the most effective way in catching the terrorist before he blows himself up and many innocent people with him, whatever culture, religion or colour they might be.

 

[joderu95]

yet there has never been a white male terrorist.

No? Think again.


Jim Brown
Timothy McVeigh
Terry Nichols
John Walker Lindh
Bill Ayers
Michael Griffin
Nearly the entire Sybionese Liberation Army

 

[Litany]

So the convicted white Muslim terrorists mentioned by name in the article that Sybarite linked to don't count as convicted white Muslim terrorists because...?

 

[joderu95]

I'm guessing that is meant for lil' chris right? Naturally they do count. Walker Lindh is Muslim. At least in the U.S. though I would be surprised to meet anybody who would recognize any of those names. On the other hand, the names I listed are white terrorists through history that are a little more well known. And I was surprised that chris has apparently never heard of any of them.

 

[Zolipara]

I am not against 90 days, we would be safer with 90 days, but the government were only voting on whether to keep to the 28 days or increase it to 42............the 42 won.
.

Why not just lock them all up and throw away the key?

 

[Sybarite]

So the convicted white Muslim terrorists mentioned by name in the article that Sybarite linked to don't count as convicted white Muslim terrorists because...?

<impression of Chris>La la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la</impression of Chris>

 

[ylris611203]

Why not just lock them all up and throw away the key?

Or why bother arresting them at all...........they will soon get tired of blowing things up.

 

[Disenthral]

Or why bother arresting them at all...........they will soon get tired of blowing things up.

i dont knowwwwww.blowing stuff up is pretty fun.

 

[ylris611203]

So the convicted white Muslim terrorists mentioned by name in the article that Sybarite linked to don't count as convicted white Muslim terrorists because...?

Sybarite in her usual way, has diverted from the main point and has clung on to this ' I will find an example of a white Muslin terrorist to prove Chris wrong, even if I have to sit at my PC all day googling 'white Muslin terrorist'. The best she has come up with is an article from THE JAMESTOWN FOUNDATION what ever that is.

What her link did not point out was that Mr Reilly, who is 18st and well over 6ft, is a shambling, introverted 22-year-old “child in a man’s body”. Senior police officers said that he had been “taken advantage of” by Islamic extremists.

And as for Simon Keeler there is little evidence that he had personally planned or sought to carry out terrorist attacks, whether in the UK or abroad.

Andrew Ibrahim I'd say the jury’s is out on that one. But, lets give her that one rather than argue about it................it was the Muslim community that informed the police about him; it was not due to a stop and search.

And now it would be interesting to have Sybarite justify her use of the word bigot. It's at this stage she usually leaves the discussion.

 

[Litany]

And now it would be interesting to have Sybarite justify her use of the word bigot. It's at this stage she usually leaves the discussion.

Maybe she just gets sick of talking to a brick wall.

 

[ylris611203]

Maybe she just gets sick of talking to a brick wall.

Sybarite enjoys winding me up and I do the same to her. I don't agree with most of what she has to say but I do like reading it.

It's a shame you don't have an opinion of your own.

 

[Sybarite]

We have a problem here called politically correctness. A TV programme I watched this morning said that because of the present terrorist threat, 176,000 white males were stopped and searched last year; yet there has never been a white male terrorist. A complete waste of police recourses...

Chris has subsequently been proved wrong. The current terrorist threat includes white people who have been charged and, in three cases at least, tried and found guilty in a court of law, and subsequently sentenced.

Now, either he's too stupid to comprehend that these facts mean that there are white would-be terrorists – and therefore that there searching white suspects as well as those of any other ethnic group is not "a complete waste of police resources", or he refuses to acknowledge it for some other reasons. It is difficult to see what other reason there could be unless it was one of prejudice.

And that, of course, is without reminding ourselves that Chris 'has form'.

 

[ylris611203]

It is difficult to see what other reason there could be unless it was one of prejudice..

It would be difficult for you to see ANY OTHER REASON because you are encapsulated in your own left wing propaganda, you are blinkered to other views. The word prejudice is part of your every day vocabulary; you are part of the cause of the disease that has been eating away at British society the last 10 years. Fortunately the majority of the voting public have seen through this and your views along with the Labour party politics will soon be a thing of the past.

The majority of Britain want suspected terrorist's held until it's safe to let then go, but only terrorist's.