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Fascinating scientific stuff

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by beer good, Apr 3, 2011.

  1. joderu95

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    Or even life of their own?
     
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    Clearly, the only way to find out is to clone one, let it watch CNN for a few days, and then ask it if it's happy. If it's not, we can always kill it. :)

    Mmmm... mammoth meat.
     
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    Life in a brown dwarf system would be nothing short of miraculous.
     
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    Reminds me of an episode of Northern Exposure.
     
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    No way !! :eek: For this purpose it's better to clone the vegetables :lol:
    When I was talking about the happy mammoth, I wanted to emphasize about those animals in danger of extinction .. It was a double reading ... :whistling:
     
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    Yeah, I know, but it was just a funny image.

    ai22.photobucket.com_albums_b339_beergood_elephant.jpg

    That said, two arguments:

    - Do we really need to clone existing endangered animals? The main problem there clearly isn't getting the genetic material, but finding a way for the actual live animals to continue to exist as a species. You won't save polar bears by cloning a couple; you'll save them by ensuring that they have a functioning habitat.
    - Part of the problem of preserving endangered species is, quite simply, money. Cloning a mammoth will get you a lot more attention and a lot more funding (and a lot more controversy) than cloning a polar bear. Cloning a mammoth won't make the polar bear any more threatened, but it might just draw attention to the issues that lead to them being threatened...

    Also, three words: pet miniature mammoths.
     
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    ai22.photobucket.com_albums_b339_beergood_elephant.jpg

    Yes, funny and nice picture ;)

    Yes, I know it.
    For this reason, I talked about the Global warming. I couldn't understand ( imagine ) how this cloned mammoth would be happy or in the other words, could survive !!


    But it's also so unfair !!

    Also, three words: pet miniature mammoths
    (+ 2 ) Wax museum . :)
     
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    If we're going to assume that the global weather will soon be so hot that animals with fur simply won't be able to live, I think the mammoths will be the least of our problems. But as long as there's just one, and it's being kept in captivity, I doubt that will be more of a problem than any polar bear held in a zoo.
     
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    Crazy. I think the "Official Stance" from the Vatican is that the Earth is not the center of the universe.

    Then again, these nuts are kinda correct since technically anywhere is the center of the universe. Damn you, curved space-time.
     
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    That's pretty badass. Brighter than a billion suns.

    Two weeks, eh? Too much light pollution for me to see it. :(
     
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    Gosh !! I have been so naive . I thought after coming to life again, Scientists would allow it being a Mammoth !!!
    C'est dommage ! :sad: It's really sad !!!
     
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    Surely that's no different from what they do with other severely threatened animals in captivity (or, for that matter, somewhat less threatened animals in captivity)? Spending millions of dollars to clone a mammoth, only to then kick it out into the wild and let it go extinct again would be spectacularly stupid...
     
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    And What happen with its inherent freedom ??
     
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    Same thing that happened to the Wisent's inherent freedom.

    Same thing that happens with a mountain gorilla's inherent freedom when it's more likely to be preserved in a zoo than in the wild. Or an orang-utan's. Or any other animal that's currently being bred in captivity since their inherently free compatriots are being wiped out.

    Same thing that could have happened with the Tasmanian tiger's inherent freedom, but sadly didn't.

    Same thing that might still happen to the Northern White Rhino's inherent freedom if they manage to get the seven (7) remaining individuals to multiply.

    Same thing that happens with a cow's inherent freedom.

    Same thing that happens with a dog's inherent freedom.

    This is hardly new. We've kept animals in captivity longer than we've eaten bread. It's only lately that we've started occasionally using it to preserve animals rather than simply amuse us for a while. If "inherent freedom" leads to extinction, it suddenly becomes very costly.
     
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