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That’s fair enough as far as it goes, and for the record I agree; someone on a message board calling me names isn’t going to be something I loose sleep over. However if someone does that to me, I’m not the only one who reads it. What about new or potential members browsing for the first time? Will reading insults and/or threats encourage them to participate? It might not put people off if they were joining a misanthropes help group, or, God forbid, a Wrestling board; but we’re a Book forum.ruach said:A personal attack is different for different people; I for one, wouldn't be offended if someone called me a wanker, told I was an idiot for reading such and such, or wanting to kill my family...no one's life is in danger by saying these things either here or in person. It isn't clear on whose standards it is being judged.
In principle I agree with this, mods can’t be expected to be around all the time, and who wants to have to PM them anyway. A far better first line of defence is for other members to step in and point out comments that are out of line. Although if this is true:ruach said:Instead of calling in 'the man' to fix our problems, let us fix them ourselves.
Then the people most likely to be confident enough to step in will be the most stupid.ruach said:"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt.
Then the issue of inconsistency will be even worse.ruach said:A personal attack is different for different people
The most common explanation I have seen for misinterpreting someone’s intent in a post, is that it was supposed to be a joke. Now, I would have hoped people were intelligent enough to understand that, even with the help of , ‘joke’ insults on a message board are open to interpretation.ruach said:I'm not sure anyone can truthfully judge anyone elses intent. We can project ourselves into the the situation, but that isn't the same
I agree. But then sometimes the moderators and/or members won't agree with the comment another member made and where does that leave us?Kenny Shovel said:In principle I agree with this, mods can’t be expected to be around all the time, and who wants to have to PM them anyway. A far better first line of defence is for other members to step in and point out comments that are out of line.
Well yes, hence my point that 'A personal attack is different for different people' could mean that 'the issue of inconsistency will be even worse'.lies said:I agree. But then sometimes the moderators and/or members won't agree with the comment another member made and where does that leave us?
Martin said:Oh, and to answer your question:
It's the overall atmosphere of this place that has drastically changed over the last few months. It's like something, or someone, a few months ago, flicked a switch or pulled a lever, and turned this place upside down, turning it from an incredible place into something very, very shallow.
It's just that the recent trend of superficiality overrunning this place amazes me.
sirmyk said:"Is it safe yet to come out and play?"
(peers out from bomb shelter and tip-toes back into The Book Forum to see if it's safe... above is a fan, dripping brown goo; sh*t is everywhere... on the walls, the floor, the desk lamps; the entire place smells of urine from the world's largest pissing contest; a PISO MIJADO sign is on the floor (a few members have fallen in the mess; others are still going "number one" and "number two")
(tip-toes back out of The Book Forum quietly, enters the bomb shelter, and closes the latch)
clueless said:Any moderators around? Please give me a warning so we can end this impasse and change subject.
I totally agree with you Robert! Theres a few threads that need putting to BED!Robert said:Hasn't this been dragged through the mud long enough? What's it going to take to put it to bed?
Sick of the popcorn,and lets hope this dies soon!Miss Shelf said:Somebody lock this thread, it's not dying out like it should. I've even tried putting my threadkilling hex on it, and normally my threadkilling powers are formidable.
If this goes on much longer, we'll need more popcorn.